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Introduction/Small liveaboard 28 Nov 2016 19:13 #83242

  • Annas Alamudi
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Many thanks to all who replied so far. I will get in touch after this week, as I am still rammed with shifts at work, on top of doing a tropical nursing course.

Quick question, though: Of all the different types of Dutch sailing barges, which are the ones designed for coastal waters? From the name, I'm guessing that Zeeschouw is one, although I could ve quite off the mark. Anything else? Also, what are the characteristics that make them more suitable for coastal waters as opposed to inland waters? Narrower beams? Deeper/larger lee boards?

Again, many thanks.

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Introduction/Small liveaboard 28 Nov 2016 11:26 #83221

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Hi Annas,
my daughter lived aboard her 14m skutsje tjalk for over 5 years. Her barge is unusual for its size in that although it is fully rigged it has full headroom throughout the main accommodation, and has been fitted out as a live aboard. She is now thinking of selling her and you would be very welcome to come and take a look.  The barge is moored at Staines Upon Thames.  She has a website www.bargeforsale2016.wordpress.com . You  can contact me on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. .
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Greetings.  I just joined the DBA a few days ago, and have read through the Barge Buyers Handbook, and would like to introduce myself.

I am a nurse by trade, formerly a logistician for a humanitarian aid agency working in wars, epidemics and disasters around the world.  I am currently working on a high dependency unit at a London hospital, but will transfer over to A&E in the new year.  As a humanitarian logistician, part of my job was construction, water and sanitation, electricity, IT and mechanics, meaning that I have some basic skills, so although I could never call myself a proper sparky, bricky, plumber or mechanic, I can do most things myself.  I'm still a rubbish welder, though.
Sailing-wise, I have completed the Day Skipper theory and practical (Sail), the Diesel Engine Course, and the MCA Approved Engine Course, as well as the VHF/GMDSS course, albeit all quite some time ago.  The longest passage I did was as watch leader on a 38 foot sloop crossing the Bay of Biscay.

Now, with that in mind, I am looking for a sailing barge to live aboard.  In an ideal world, I would love to have a tjalk of about 15-20m x 4m, as I think anything much bigger would be too much of a handful to sail alone or with one or two inexperienced crew, even though it would be most likely that sailing trips are few and far between.  Realistically though, after looking at some barges on the market, I would probably only be able to afford a Zeeschouw of about 10m, which would probably a good thing if I end up continuously cruising the London canals and the tidal Thames while working full-time.  Does anyone have much or any experience of living aboard a vessel that size?  I have some friends who lived in 20-30m2 flats in Paris and Amsterdam, so it should be doable, but of course flats and barges are hardly comparable, hence hearing from someone with first hand experience would be good.

On a different point, I know that my Day Skipper (Sail) would be good for a coastal ICC.  Would the ICC be valid for European waterways if I add on a CEVNI pass and/or the Inland Waterways Helmsman course?
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Introduction/Small liveaboard 27 Nov 2016 20:47 #83195

We have a 10m tug and live on it for as much of the summer as we can, it is not set up for long term living aboard but it would be a nice home for 1, an OK home for two and a bit of a squash for two and a collie, visitors are just about ok so long as they don't stay too long. If I was looking for a boat to live on the starting point would probably be 10 m or thereabouts and If I found a boat I liked at that length I would seriously consider it, If it was a London flat with that kind of space it would be half a million £.
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Introduction/Small liveaboard 27 Nov 2016 16:39 #83181

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Hello Annas,

For more information on the ICC see:

www.barges.org/knowledgebase/regulations/regulations-skipper

Your Day skipper with CEVNI endorsement will qualify you for to an ICC but inland it will only be valid on craft up to 10m unless you get another qualification such as IWHC on a craft of over 10m. See the link to the RYA website application form for more details.

Living aboard many people live on small barges - it all depends on hoe much comfort you need......the Barge Buyers Handbook may help your decision processes.

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Andy
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Introduction/Small liveaboard 27 Nov 2016 14:08 #83173

Annas hi
Know of two lovely sailing barges that might be of interest at least for a look. Call me on 07711487955. Charlie

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> On 27 Nov 2016, at 12:42, DBA Forum (SB) - Annas Alamudi wrote:
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> Greetings. I just joined the DBA a few days ago, and have read through the Barge Buyers Handbook, and would like to introduce myself.
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> I am a nurse by trade, formerly a logistician for a humanitarian aid agency working in wars, epidemics and disasters around the world. I am currently working on a high dependency unit at a London hospital, but will transfer over to A&E in the new year. As a humanitarian logistician, part of my job was construction, water and sanitation, electricity, IT and mechanics, meaning that I have some basic skills, so although I could never call myself a proper sparky, bricky, plumber or mechanic, I can do most things myself. I'm still a rubbish welder, though.
> Sailing-wise, I have completed the Day Skipper theory and practical (Sail), the Diesel Engine Course, and the MCA Approved Engine Course, as well as the VHF/GMDSS course, albeit all quite some time ago. The longest passage I did was as watch leader on a 38 foot sloop crossing the Bay of Biscay.
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> Now, with that in mind, I am looking for a sailing barge to live aboard. In an ideal world, I would love to have a tjalk of about 15-20m x 4m, as I think anything much bigger would be too much of a handful to sail alone or with one or two inexperienced crew, even though it would be most likely that sailing trips are few and far between. Realistically though, after looking at some barges on the market, I would probably only be able to afford a Zeeschouw of about 10m, which would probably a good thing if I end up continuously cruising the London canals and the tidal Thames while working full-time. Does anyone have much or any experience of living aboard a vessel that size? I have some friends who lived in 20-30m2 flats in Paris and Amsterdam, so it should be doable, but of course flats and barges are hardly comparable, hence hearing from someone with first hand experience would be good.
>
> On a different point, I know that my Day Skipper (Sail) would be good for a coastal ICC. Would the ICC be valid for European waterways if I add on a CEVNI pass and/or the Inland Waterways Helmsman course?
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>
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Introduction/Small liveaboard 27 Nov 2016 13:42 #83171

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Greetings. I just joined the DBA a few days ago, and have read through the Barge Buyers Handbook, and would like to introduce myself.

I am a nurse by trade, formerly a logistician for a humanitarian aid agency working in wars, epidemics and disasters around the world. I am currently working on a high dependency unit at a London hospital, but will transfer over to A&E in the new year. As a humanitarian logistician, part of my job was construction, water and sanitation, electricity, IT and mechanics, meaning that I have some basic skills, so although I could never call myself a proper sparky, bricky, plumber or mechanic, I can do most things myself. I'm still a rubbish welder, though.
Sailing-wise, I have completed the Day Skipper theory and practical (Sail), the Diesel Engine Course, and the MCA Approved Engine Course, as well as the VHF/GMDSS course, albeit all quite some time ago. The longest passage I did was as watch leader on a 38 foot sloop crossing the Bay of Biscay.

Now, with that in mind, I am looking for a sailing barge to live aboard. In an ideal world, I would love to have a tjalk of about 15-20m x 4m, as I think anything much bigger would be too much of a handful to sail alone or with one or two inexperienced crew, even though it would be most likely that sailing trips are few and far between. Realistically though, after looking at some barges on the market, I would probably only be able to afford a Zeeschouw of about 10m, which would probably a good thing if I end up continuously cruising the London canals and the tidal Thames while working full-time. Does anyone have much or any experience of living aboard a vessel that size? I have some friends who lived in 20-30m2 flats in Paris and Amsterdam, so it should be doable, but of course flats and barges are hardly comparable, hence hearing from someone with first hand experience would be good.

On a different point, I know that my Day Skipper (Sail) would be good for a coastal ICC. Would the ICC be valid for European waterways if I add on a CEVNI pass and/or the Inland Waterways Helmsman course?

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