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European moorings 17 Jan 2018 13:31 #96294

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Paul Facer wrote:


2 Hours from Calais by road and 70km from Charleroi airport and in France would seem to me to fulfill your stated requirements.

As for the factory and railway line they are not a great intrusion.

I feel that your ideal mooring would appear to be in Paris but at what price??


Paris would be great, but not really realistic in terms of charges for me as I already have another boat that I pay a lot for moorings.
That said It looks like through the forum I have found a couple of possibilities at either Nieuwpoort, or Veurne and they do have availability, and Someone has found one for me just 50km from Charleroi airport at a yacht club, and in a nice location.

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European moorings 12 Jan 2018 11:07 #96253

Simon Jenkins wrote: As someone new to European cruising I am finding the mooring situation a little complicated, in as much as I can't seem to find a permanent mooring. I am sure once you are there and cruising around it becomes much easier to find moorings-which is often the case.

Doing things remotely prior to taking ownership of a 30M barge is proving somewhat difficult.

I need a mooring for said vessel, anywhere that is either accessible by Car from the UK (sensible distance from Calais) or close to an airport that has flights from the UK, not fussed where it is, France would be my preferred choice.


2 Hours from Calais by road and 70km from Charleroi airport and in France would seem to me to fulfill your stated requirements.

As for the factory and railway line they are not a great intrusion.

I feel that your ideal mooring would appear to be in Paris but at what price??

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European moorings 12 Jan 2018 04:29 #96249

I was told the moorings in the port at Veurne were more expensive than Bruges, hence the exodus of long term big boat moorers. That may have changed with new management. Veurne IS very convenient and secure for UK based people.

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European moorings 11 Jan 2018 18:50 #96245

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Balliol Fowden wrote: Westhoek Marina in Nieuwpoort operate the town moorings and I believe offer a DBA discount.

I wonder if there is an element of confusion here. I get confused myself between the three Marinas at Nieuwpoort. Certainly Westhoek Marina at their Nieuwpoort site might have difficulty accommodating a 30 metre ship, but they also manage the harbour and pontoon moorings in Veurne, 10 kilometres away, which are virtually empty at the moment. Quaysides and pontoons, ideal for 30 metres. I don't have any contacts there and believe that the original founder of the company may have retired, so again there might be some lack of continuity, but I suggest that you persist in your enquiries.

www.westhoekmarina.be/jachthaven-veurne-2/

Yes, you will pay marina prices, which my neighbour John Wilson rightly feels are quite expensive although I tend to think that 3K p.a. is not too bad for a 100' ship, but John and I have long term mooring contracts with the waterway authority, going back over twenty years, and we provide our own services, so our costs are somewhat less.

The zebra mussel issue may have gone away for a while at least. It is an issue that you will encounter in various places throughout European lakes and waterways. Some areas are infested, some not, but the problem will spread and marine antifouling will be the only course eventually. In Veurne we believe that the local infestation was aggravated by a local factor that has now gone away. Also, there has been a salt water incursion into the canal about three years ago which seems to have killed off the fresh water mussels, and the authorities are now working to flush out the salt. What will happen in the future is anybody's guess but I would not let the issue put you off enjoying the delights of Veurne.

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I will try again-Where to start? 11 Jan 2018 18:04 #96243

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John Wilson wrote: Veurne is expensive unless you have a permanent mooring beyond the Ieperbrug.


I was quoted €3K today which isnt that bad for 12 month mooring in my opinion.

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I will try again-Where to start? 11 Jan 2018 18:03 #96242

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Paul Facer wrote: As I stated previously. Hautmont has moorings.


I did look at these, but Hautment is 70KM from the airport so I sort of dismissed them, plus the moorings are between a railway line and the back of some factories, I know beggars can't be choosers! Thanks anyway Paul for the suggestion.

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I will try again-Where to start? 11 Jan 2018 13:19 #96240

As I stated previously. Hautmont has moorings.
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I will try again-Where to start? 10 Jan 2018 14:17 #96213

Veurne is expensive unless you have a permanent mooring beyond the Ieperbrug. That is probably why there are not many boats there. Also there is/was a big problem with zebra mussels. If you left your boat there in the summer without, or even with antifouling, you would find it difficult to move in the spring. Some say that problem has changed or diminished. I am not sure if that is the case as I do not stay there in summer.
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European moorings 10 Jan 2018 13:24 #96211

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I had no trouble mooring my 30m barge in Veurne for the last 3 winters. They even had a 38m barge about two years ago. I believe that the marina is almost empty there this year. I know the people at Westhoek wel so if you want to send me a pm I can provide further information.
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European moorings 10 Jan 2018 12:36 #96207

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Balliol Fowden wrote: Westhoek Marina in Nieuwpoort operate the town moorings and I believe offer a DBA discount.

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Thanks Balliol this is one of the first places we tried as it looked an all round excellent location for us for the first year, or maybe longer if we liked it, however we contacted Westhoek Marina and they just said a flat no they could not accommodate a 30x5mtr barge! Unless you have the contact details of someone who may be able to help us? Regards Simon

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European moorings 10 Jan 2018 07:22 #96202

I forgot to mention that almost everybody speaks English in Veurne. If you want to hone your Flemish you will struggle there. The lady serving in the favoured bakers when I was in there the other day spoke more refined English than the English couple in front of me that she was serving!

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European moorings 10 Jan 2018 07:13 #96201

Back in 1984 it was suggested to me that Veurne in BE was a good place to take our newly purchased barge before making the passage to England. We are still there (albeit with a few thousand hours of passages and adventures under our belt since then)! There is plenty of space on the moorings in the town. The upsides are that you are only 45 minutes from the Chunnell, it's a lovely quiet safe town and there are absolutely excellent local services including the best hardware shop you will find anywhere, right by the quay. The down sides are that by water Veurne is out on a bit of a limb, and public transport to the wider world is poor, although there is a station. We love it nonetheless. Westhoek Marina in Nieuwpoort operate the town moorings and I believe offer a DBA discount.

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European moorings 06 Jan 2018 23:52 #96166

Can you take over the mooring where the vessel is currently situated?
I know you are preferring France however have you considered Netherlands with ferry arriving at Europort near Rotterdam and airports at Schiphol and Eindhoven.
There should be moorings near Rotterdam or along the Maas.
Once the barge is cruising an alternative mooring can be sourced at leisure.

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European moorings 06 Jan 2018 21:07 #96165

Hautmont on the Haut sambre in France has 3 peniche moorings available one has been in use this winter.

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European moorings 04 Jan 2018 15:23 #96126

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I am working my way through all of the moorings on the list, as you say most are not suitable, its a lengthy process and a process of elimination.

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European moorings 04 Jan 2018 15:19 #96125

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Hi Peter I haven't bought it yet, just in the stages of sorting it, and totally agree buying a boat and then looking for a mooring is the wrong way about the process, this is why I'm looking for a mooring before I go any further with the purchase.

Yes this barge has the space for a car and has indeed cruised with one before and we would probably do the same or use motorbikes. Moving around will be our end goal in a couple of years but for now I'm just looking for somewhere safe to leave the boat whilst I'm in the UK.

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European moorings 04 Jan 2018 14:35 #96123

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It's a bit rash to buy a large barge and expect to find a permanent mooring for it - in any country. It amounts to looking for a houseboat mooring. Although there are huge numbers of houseboats, particularly in Netherlands, most are occupied as primary homes and mostly by host country nationals - and most are sold with their mooring.

An alternative is to look for a winter mooring - there are lots of these - and then cruise in your barge when in Europe. You can then find a place to leave your boat at the end of a trip until you next return. This is what many of us do, although one's starting point is likely to be miles from one's end point, so collecting the car can be a bit of a problem. However, with a 30m vessel you can probably take your car with you. I'd certainly want to be able to carry a car on any boat longer than about 20m as my previous boat was - see my Avatar.

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European moorings 04 Jan 2018 14:19 #96121

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Simon Jenkins wrote: As someone new to European cruising I am finding the mooring situation a little complicated, in as much as I can't seem to find a permanent mooring. I am sure once you are there and cruising around it becomes much easier to find moorings-which is often the case.
Cheers Simon


Simon,

You are quite right it is easier when you are 'on the ground' and "permanent mooring" is akin to hens teeth. However, as Chris has posted in your other Topic, there are many moorings detailed in the Waterways Guide. Under Winter Mooring there are:

27 inserts in Belgium
45 inserts in the Netherlands
113 inserts in France

Undoubtedly, many, if not most, will not be suitable but I suggest reading what members have written about each will give you a short list worth taking to the next level - contacting them.

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European moorings 04 Jan 2018 13:19 #96117

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As someone new to European cruising I am finding the mooring situation a little complicated, in as much as I can't seem to find a permanent mooring. I am sure once you are there and cruising around it becomes much easier to find moorings-which is often the case.

Doing things remotely prior to taking ownership of a 30M barge is proving somewhat difficult.

I need a mooring for said vessel, anywhere that is either accessible by Car from the UK (sensible distance from Calais) or close to an airport that has flights from the UK, not fussed where it is, France would be my preferred choice.

I have been through he excellent knowledge base which has given me some help, but peoples own experience can't be beaten.

Any help and advice would be greatly received.

Cheers Simon

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I will try again-Where to start? 03 Jan 2018 16:28 #96101

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> Have already tried the ones in Niewpoort and just waiting for a reply, but if anyone else has any suggestions please feel free to post up ideas.

Thuin, near Charleroi may be worth looking at. I met a British couple who had been there for months and found it very good as Charleroi Airport was served by a cheap airline from near their home the UK
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