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TOPIC: Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add

Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 09 Oct 2017 10:26 #95332

Colin Stone wrote: Pete, Well, you've just cluttered up the ether and thread with 3 totally unnecessary emails. Pot kettle black!


Oops, have I upset someone? OK, I take back the bit about nerds, and also agree with you re my 3rd email. But not re the first two: the first was stating a perfectly legitimate view, which is what the Forum is for, and the second added a perfectly valid clarification. Colin, you're known and respected on the Forum for your barging knowledge, and for your views in general, which are occasionally trenchantly put. So I'm surprised you take umbrage at another member's constructive criticism.

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 09 Oct 2017 07:55 #95329

One of the most important features of a live aboard boat is headroom. Being able to stand upright comfortable everywhere is the key to happiness. And being able to at least sit on a stool in the engine room. And for those long winters a wood burning stove.
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Oct 2017 14:27 #95321

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Hi Fella's

It is the nature of forums (and discussions in general) that the subject wanders, we all tend to do it.

As the originator of this thread, can I say that the idea was a list rather than a discussion for live aboard life, for which I am a great advocate, rather than about individual items on that life

Like Pete Clark I have nothing against a thread about any individual item, be it gray water tanks, or comfortable mattresses and pillow.

However, could they just be entered on the list a "Comfortable Pillows" and then a new thread opened to discuss the benefits of feather verses foam.

I ask as the thread has generated a large amount of views, hopefully from potential live aboards, and don;t want them distracted with intricacies of individual points.

Apologies if I am treading into Moderators territory.

By the way the idea of large gray tanks as suggested by Colin is a good one, done similar myself :-)

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Oct 2017 13:41 #95320

Pete,

Well, you've just cluttered up the ether and thread with 3 totally unnecessary emails.

Pot kettle black!!

Colin Stone
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Oct 2017 13:37 #95319

Oops -not only did I forget to sign off, but I just saw a big "Unsuscribe" button right under my nose - sorry, Bob

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Oct 2017 13:33 #95318

Bob Marsland wrote:

Pete Clark wrote: Why don't you simply unsubscribe from the thread, Pete. I'm sure you know how to do that. Bob


Actually, I don't, Bob, though I'm sure I could find out, but that's not quite the point, is it? The thread in general interests me, just not - in this thread - the intricacies of a particular pumping system. No reflection on the authors, we all meander off the beaten track at times - but if it really is of interest to many, maybe they could start a different thread, as not infrequently suggested by our moderators (that's not meant sarcastically, I genuinely value your dedication).

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Oct 2017 13:15 #95317

Pete Clark wrote: Hey Guys
Isn't this getting a bit too nerdish? I'm not a moderator but the thread's about the generality of what one might (or might not) need on a liveaboard, not the specifics of some one-off water treatment system, interesting as that might (or might not) be. My incoming e-mails are getting cluttered up!
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Why don't you simply unsubscribe from the thread, Pete. I'm sure you know how to do that.

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Oct 2017 08:00 #95316

Hey Guys
Isn't this getting a bit too nerdish? I'm not a moderator but the thread's about the generality of what one might (or might not) need on a liveaboard, not the specifics of some one-off water treatment system, interesting as that might (or might not) be. My incoming e-mails are getting cluttered up!
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 06 Oct 2017 20:00 #95315

Hi Colin,
It was your good self who suggested the Hydro-Air switch and apologies for not remembering.
So that's two converts!
I too have to follow the same maintenance routine and to be honest it's not such a big task.
Your sump is a smart move. I had mine fabricated from stainless steel and it cost an arm plus half a leg!
You have got me thinking now because the next step for me is to replace the forward heads sump and pump.
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 06 Oct 2017 18:21 #95314

Nige,

>I have been converted to a Jabsco Hydro-air switch which is many times more reliable, but not without it's problems.

I blow through the air tube monthly to remove any gunge that might block it and delay or stop the air switch operating. I then empty the sump tank and reattach the air tube when the gulper pump is sucking air.

And large sump tanks; I made my own from plastic storage boxes.



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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 06 Oct 2017 14:16 #95311

Adequate attention to be paid to grey water sump size vs. pump rate.
A galley with sink, dishwasher and washing machine will require particular attention to the ratio of sump capacity and pump flow rate.
Genarally speaking, the larger the sump volume the lower the required flow rate for the pump. A large sump will also have the ability to take care of simultaneous flows from the appliances.
Don't think that you will use the appliances one at a time because it won't happen.
Use positive displacement grey water pump(s) in order to pass solids and be able to pump a degree of air/foam without inducing damage.
Calculation is required using data and common sense.
Level detection (floatswitch) is a particular issue. I have tried conventional immersed float switches, immersed electro-magnetic (solid-state) switches with limited success. Thanks to a member on this forum I have been converted to a Jabsco Hydro-air switch which is many times more reliable, but not without it's problems.
This may be a bit obvoious, but sometimes it's the 'out of sight - out of mind' items that can catch us out and I just wanted to share my experiences.
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 04 Oct 2017 23:04 #95302

There's always something else. Start with a list. Look at boats. Forget the list and buy the boat you fall in love with. Then add the bits you feel you really need... next.

It's much harder if you're building a boat. Almost certain to over-spec!

Pete
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 04 Oct 2017 22:34 #95300

After 11 years live aboard we have sort of settled what we want, and what we can’t have, we want more tankage but can’t have it especially fresh water and black , we have added another freezer so 2 now , recently added water filtration system so we can whatever happens have water although I still don’t trust it 100% albeit the tests said fine but it’s not as clear as I’d like, got 1000 a/h batteries , sufficient I think, 10 kva gennie plenty of power, 3000 Iva Victron with colour control monitoring,about 800 watts solar power , could be better but restricted roof room, recently put a super duper economy washing machine in after dumping the washer /dryer complete waste of time about 3 years ago, nice curved 55 inch tv , an extravagant purchase but a cracking picture,
No , thinking about it we don’t really want much else apart from a longer wider boat, but then do we really !!!!

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 03 Oct 2017 18:21 #95290

Purchased a small ice machine this year which has paid dividends, not only providing ample ice for the G&Ts but also freeing up valuable freezer stowage.
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 12 Sep 2017 18:03 #94992

Hans Egli wrote: a dog free zone ;-)


No dogs in bedroom at night time (or on beds / sofa / armchairs at any time), like at home. These are our dog free zones. (Do you really want two soggy, soppy golden retrievers on your sofa with you?) Otherwise they're free to roam round the boat when moored (but tethered on their leads in the wheelhouse while underway).

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 12 Sep 2017 17:54 #94991

Paul Hayes wrote: I missed out

Safety equipment - Fire Extinguishers = Life jackets - two anchors - All serviceable of course.

Paul


A couple more things to add to your list, Paul, even if fairly obvious: smoke alarm and CO alarm.

Having had my 3 fire extinguishers professionally checked yesterday, I also invested in a new smoke alarm and a new CO alarm (gas hob; wood burning stove).

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 07 Sep 2017 14:18 #94912

Apologies if already mentioned:
Bicycle, and repair kit.
A good seating position but also easy visibility of instrument when seated. My barge was designed by a taller man than me :)
A locking deck stowage.
A decent freezer : some 12v ones struggle to get really cold.
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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 06 Sep 2017 18:46 #94900

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Agree about dishwasher - we should be able to do our own washing up and as you say, you need twice as much crockery, glassware and cutlery.

Agree with decent size fridge (and larder space) but I favour a small freezer, preferably top loading to keep the cold in, for ice, frozen bread and meat that is often difficult to find in villages. I don't freeze fresh milk as it lasts 7 days in the fridge and we can normally find supplies every few days. However we do keep a few small UHTs for when it runs out - in preference to thawed fresh!

I have a ceramic hob which is very wasteful of power and tricky to control. We have an efficient portable induction hob and am considering ripping out the ceramic and replacing with a 4 burner induction. Gas is better still but often tricky to retro-install.

In winter a slow cooker is great and uses very few watts!

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 06 Sep 2017 18:10 #94899

a dog free zone ;-)

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Things a live aboard boat should have - a list but please add 06 Sep 2017 18:05 #94898

Good company, or peace and quiet on your own, whichever you prefer.

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