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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 19 Jul 2018 08:52 #99870

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Hi Jared, I just fitted a new galley and saloon. It took two of us 8 weeks solid hard graft. We ended up tearing down walls, treating the rust, re insulating, re welding the window runners, replacing the floors.
New ceilings, walls , electrics. The kitchen and appliances I sourced in England and took it all to Belgium. We got the units from howdens they initially wanted £4000 so we tried to get it cheaper with Homebase as they had a price match deal at the time. They quoted £6000 and could not match howdens. Our kitchen fitter then went back to howdens and renegotiated the price down to £2200 minus the worktop which we got in Belgium.
We removed the gas from the boat and put an AEG induction hob and oven in which cost about £1000. All the white goods are intergrated which did cost more but well worth it. We turned a pokey little galley into a massive open plan space. In total without going through bills we spent about £6000 on the galley .

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 14 Jul 2018 06:10 #99795

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Hi Paul,
You raise a good point and we'll probably do exactly what you said.

That is use the barge for a couple of seasons prior to doing any work as this time will confirm if the barge actually requires any work or if the current status / layout is actually OK for its intended purpose.

Thanks for the response.
Cheers
Jared

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 12 Jul 2018 07:45 #99754

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Hi Again
Another thought passed through my head.
I've seen a lot of people buy a barge / boat that they think needs "Remodeling", so on completion of the purchase the vessel goes to a "yard", and stats what Jim says is a couple of year process, or even for a new Galley and Bathroom the best part of a Navigating Season.
If you find a barge that has usable (if dated) facilities, might I suggest that you use it for a season, as is.
Four things happen:
1) You get to enjoy what us long time owners enjoy. The benefits of bobbing around on the water.
2). You find out what you really want to change. It's often the case that a boat is configured in a certain way because it is the best (or only) way it works for that boat.
3) Probably most importantly, you do not sit at home getting frustrated,, watching months of "Navigating Time" evaporate.
4) You get out on the water, meet and speak to others and find out who can "do the job", see their work, talk to them and arrange to get the work done when you are not using the boat.

Best of luck
Paul Hayes
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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 11 Jul 2018 16:24 #99750

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Hello Jared
For what it's worth I'll put my tuppence worth in.
Price, well that depends of type, amount and quality of fitments / materials, and is as long as a piece of string.

What I would say is look closely at the type of use the boat will be put to.
If long term or live aboard, then the same facilities that you enjoy at home would be a reasonable goal.
If a couple of weeks at a time, with eating ashore prominent then lesser facilities can be got away with.
Also, think of resale, if you are physically small, then a compact shower room may suffice, however, a buyer of bigger proportions will look for room to "towel off" in comfort.
If the boat is to be used by a couple, then the one using the galley should be consulted, some people do not use a deep freeze, to others it is almost essential. Our Master would not tolerate anything other than domestic size oven and hob. My waistline will vouch for that.
Nothing wrong with gas for cooking, readily available, on average 4 x 13kg bottles a year live aboard for us.
There really are too many variables to give definitive advice, I've seen so many layouts from "Just serviceable" to "All bells and whistles" It really is up to your own requirements, and usage,
One last point, If it's man made, then one day it will cease to work, hence if possible build in some "duplication", especially with toilets. Again there are cheap "manual pump" to all dancing many hundreds of Euro self cleaning, music playing loos to choose from.
Have fun planning, We did, first building a layout with LEGO, then a full scale galley with 1x1 inch batten frames covered with paper to practice with. Even then changes happened in the final build.
Paul Hayes

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 11 Jul 2018 11:28 #99742

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for the detailed response and it confirmed a few things we were assuming ie about the same cost as doing a reno in a house.

We probably also need to think about the source of heat for the kitchen, gas or electric....each choice would have their pros and cons.

Photos would be great!

Thanks again for all the responses

Jared

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 11 Jul 2018 09:11 #99740

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Jared, I could give you prices, but that all depends what has to be done. We spent weeks trying to get the bathroom area as small as possible. We then realised that was not what we wanted. We now have a walk through bathroom, with a normal shower, toilet, washbasin and a place for a washing machine. Cost 2000€ completed. We renewed all the elctric, gas, water systems. The kitchen is a normal kitchen we got from home (3500€ fitted complete with normal fridge), and installed, the gas system was installed by a company, and tested with a certificate. Cost 600€ this could change of course depending where you are. Prices only go in one direction, your plans will change almost daily, it is exciting but sometimes frustrating. It has taken us 2years, and we are still not finished, the list of small jobs are never ending. You can ask 20 people for the best way to do things, you will get 20 differant answers.
I hope i have not put you of, it can be a lot of fun. Keep a smile on your face, and good luck. As i said before if you want some pictures we can send you some.

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 11 Jul 2018 09:06 #99739

no need for a generator...use induction cooking, a Victron Quattro or two multiplus, get the lithium batteries from Daniel Boekel and add solar

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 10 Jul 2018 13:55 #99728

Jared, as a rough guide look at the cost to install a IKEA or similar kitchen, appliances to your needs and that gives a base number. A bespoke kitchen to utilise all the odd corners may cost 50% more. Plus say €1000 each for Plummer, electrician and gas if fitted. If you plan to remove gas then add extra for a quiet generator, big battery's and inverter.
Same rational for a bathroom.

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 10 Jul 2018 13:46 #99727

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We have just recently completed a total renovation of a 15mtr Tjalk, new superstructure, new kitchen, bathroom etc. Let me have a mailaddress, we will dig out some photo`s.

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Bathroom / Kitchen renovation costs 07 Jul 2018 12:23 #99679

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Hello fellow DBA members

Seeking prices and / or experiences from the forum in the approximate cost of renovating and/or relocating a bathroom in a tjalk style barge.

At this stage we are actively seeking to purchase a barge next year and exploring different options including buying a cheaper barge that requires some work, such work may include renovating a bathroom.

Additionally we are seeking prices and/or experiences with replacing canopies at the rear of the barge that cover the steering position and price to renovate kitchens, including installing a new oven.

Understand that prices would vary considerably as to the quality and size of fit out, but at this stage we're just after "rough" costs / experience.

Any work would likely be done in Netherlands.

Any help would be highly appreciated!

Cheers

Jared

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