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TOPIC: Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône

Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 03 Jul 2016 08:40 #76918

We have just arrived on the vosge from saint jean de losne. The trip up the petit soane was easy with hardly any flow and took 30 hours. Many thanks to those who provided info on the statem of the river.

Most of the petit soane locks have a duc mooring above the lock for peniches. These used to be awkward to use for most barges as the poles were set for 38 metre barge. Since we were last on the river they have acquired a third pole which makes mooring for about 15 metre plus barge very easy and provides a useful lunchtime or overnight mooring.

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 26 Jun 2016 09:04 #76568

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Yesterday, we travelled from Corre to Port-sur-Saone in heavy rain showers.  We were the only boat moving on the river and there was very little current.  However, since we arrived here, the water run off has increased the flow and in the evening the river was flowing at about 3 kph (???) across the weir.  We will be here for about 3 days and can let you know the flow rate once we start moving again.  The weather has either been very hot sunshine or pouring rain!
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We plan to leave saint jean on tuesday heading to toul via the vosge then on to saint quenten either via the meuse or via vitry. Any advice on conditions most welcome. At last a sunny day here today!

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 24 Jun 2016 14:56 #76428

We navigated down the Saone from Core to Auxonne over the past few days. No major issues except a reasonably fast current.

There are no moorings above the lock in Gray (as marked in the Fluviacarte) -the moorings below the lock are a bit problematic since the water level lis level with the top of the quay with the fenders rising up -so if mooring in Gray glissoirs or some other form of water line protection is required .

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 22 Jun 2016 18:34 #76298

Many thanks, ab update would be great.

Does anyone know about the work on the moselle lock?

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 22 Jun 2016 14:59 #76275

Paul
We are now at Menomenil, between Epinal and Corre.  We came here via Namur, Verdun, and Toul.  No problems on the Canal de Vosges of any kind and not a lot of traffic.  We left Toul a few days early because they were closing the Villey-de-Sec lock on the Moselle for maintenance and there have been a few other closures on the Moselle but I am now out of date on that.  We travelled south along the Meuse before any flood closures.  I can send you an update once we reach Port-sur-Saone.
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We plan to leave saint jean on tuesday heading to toul via the vosge then on to saint quenten either via the meuse or via vitry. Any advice on conditions most welcome. At last a sunny day here today!
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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 22 Jun 2016 08:50 #76253

We plan to leave saint jean on tuesday heading to toul via the vosge then on to saint quenten either via the meuse or via vitry. Any advice on conditions most welcome. At last a sunny day here today!

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 22 Jun 2016 08:17 #76251

The Petit Saone reopened on 18 June to Navigation. We will reach Corre on Friday 24 June and plan to move on the Port-sur-Saone on Saturday or Sunday. If anyone is still interested, we can advise further on conditions on Sunday.

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 18 Jun 2016 11:43 #76049

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Alternatively, I could have looked at the picture of your boat - didn't think of that: duh! But as I said "More generally..."
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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 18 Jun 2016 11:03 #76044

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Andy pipped me to the post with the link to today's situation - thanks Andy. In Bob Marsland's earlier post #75299 on 06.06.2016 on the same topic Bob details how to navigate not just to the current VNF bulletin, which is in PDF format so valid on the day only, as per Andy's post, but to the source on the VNF website itself, so you can get updates yourself as you go (given internet access - another problem in the upper reaches of the Saône / lower Canal des Vosges) - thanks Bob.

More generally, even when the river opens again I would hesitate to set off immediately, depending on your boat type, motor power, availability of 2nd engine and/or bow thruster for turns against the current, etc., plus of course your and your crew's skill and experience of navigating downstream in strong flows / currents, with upstream boats around corners and barely visible logs an ever-present hazard. Having been prevented by the same conditions twice in late May / early June, when single-handing, I have chosen to keep my barge out of harm's way (I hope!) above Corre for a couple more weeks until everything settles down again.

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 18 Jun 2016 10:40 #76042

Hello David,

The latest VNF update on 17 June shows the guard gates closed on the Petite Saône and an arret de navigation from pk 219 to pk 407.

See - www.vnf.fr/vnf/img/cms/Transport_fluvialhidden/2016-06-17_20160617165717.pdf

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 18 Jun 2016 10:28 #76041

We were planning to navigate the Saone from Corre to Auxonne starting on Monday 20th, but are receiving mixed messages regarding the state of the river. One boater told us the river is closed following the heavy rain another that is perfectly safe to travel. Not having navigate the Saone before, I would be very grateful for a definitive update

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 14 Jun 2016 21:03 #75803

That is great to hear Paul - nice to know we'll be able to drive at more than 40mph..... many thanks for the intel. Keith.

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 14 Jun 2016 21:01 #75802

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We came up from SJdL to Calais on Friday, no shortage of fuel either there, or on the Autoroute.

Hope this helps

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 14 Jun 2016 20:58 #75801

Groan - stuffed from all angles then.....still it will be nice to get back to the barge. And we're cruising in lovely Friesland next year where life afloat is simpler somehow (-:

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 14 Jun 2016 20:38 #75799

And you may find the eclusiers on strike as well!

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 14 Jun 2016 18:42 #75795

Thanks Pete,

We're driving down to St J tomorrow so fingers crossed re. diesel / football hooligans / river conditions. It still all sounds very wet and there is a VNF avis notifying closures on the Petite Saone. The avis still seems to be 'live' so we'll see.

Your point about poor reception on the Vosges is interesting - our present plan is to meander back to our overwintering berth in Paris that way in Sept.

Keith

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 14 Jun 2016 16:50 #75781

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Sorry not to have replied: I was stuck at Corre as far as the Saône was concerned, so instead went up the Canal des Vosges for a few days, where reception is minimal to non-existent, so I only saw your post on my return home. I guess things have settled by now.
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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 12 Jun 2016 22:35 #75640

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We are in St. Jean and the river seems to be back at normal levels. I suspect on observation that the flow is still a bit higher than normal but traffic seems to be moving normally. When we came up from Gergy earlier this week, flow increased noticeably, in the narrower sections but nothing that could not be managed.


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Does anyone else with a boat at St Jean de Losne or elsewhere along the Petite Saone have information on river conditions there?

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 12 Jun 2016 20:42 #75638

Does anyone else with a boat at St Jean de Losne or elsewhere along the Petite Saone have information on river conditions there?

Keith

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Petite Saône: Corre to Port-s-Saône 09 Jun 2016 00:01 #75381

Pete,

How are river conditions on the Petite Saone now? Has the upper stretch reopened? Our barge is at St J de Losne and we're just trying to juggle latest info on strikes and river conditions to decide when to drive down from the UK to the barge.

Keith

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