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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 14:51 #95018

Rebecca,

>Boven Zeeschelde from Gent to Antwerp to Antwerp....

Good route for autumn, especially if the wind is like today! Tides are not a problem if you go with the flow!

Best done in 2 steps:
Gent Merelbeke, (good mooring at lock, OK for a few days), to Dendermonde. Leave M at HW or shortly after and surf the ebb to D. HW Merelbeke is HW Antwerp +4hours.
D to Antwerp. Again leave just after HW and at Antwerp the Linkeroever pontoon, opposite the Royersluis, allows stops of up to 18 hours on the inside bank side, 6 hours on the river side. HW D is Antwerp +1h47min.

Kreekrak and Volkerak sluizen have moorings after leaving A.

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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 14:30 #95015

I agree with Balliol, caveats and all. However I would avoid the Wester/Oosterschelde at that time of year unless you are certain of good weather. For comfort I would suggest taking the Boven Zeeschelde from Gent to Antwerp to Antwerp and the Schelde-Rijn canal northward to the Volkerak.

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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 14:01 #95012

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Thank you. I appreciate your last answer a lot more than your first, you've stopped me posting an already penned sarcastic reply. Thanks for your advice.

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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 13:52 #95011

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Thank you Jan, a perfect reply.
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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 12:56 #95010

Jan has suggested the fastest route.

To be more positive than my last post (but without diminution of the warnings!) I would suggest Jan's route with possible slight adjustments.

Stopovers in Belgium:

Veurne : The haven, or free on the timber staging to the west of the Ieperbrugge.

Brugge : Yachthaven Flandria, or free overnight on stagings to the west of the Scheepsdalebrug and to the east of the Katelijnepoort Brug.

Gent : Plenty of wharf space along the Ringvaart below Sluis Evergem, or marinas in town.

Terneuzen : Free wharf in the town arm to the east of the locks.

Willemstad : Marina and wharf moorings, but expensive. This is one of the only good stopping places in the big estuaries and on your route, but there are some vluchthavens (wind shelters) along the way.

After the Hollands Diep I would continue up the Merwede and enter the Merwede Kanaal at Gorinchem. Good moorings in Gorinchem, Arkel, Meerkerk & Vianen. After Gorinchem you are in smaller canals for a while so you get a breather (but still with some big ships, they just go a bit slower).

From Nieuwegein (good moorings) continue onto the Amsterdam Rijn Canal.

If you have a bit more time then a good alternative (and there are others still) is a western route from the Hollands Diep via the Noord, Dordrecht, outskirts of Rotterdam, then the Ijssel via Krimpen to Gouda (good moorings in town), on to Alphen, then either way around the Harlemmermeer Ringvaart, with various mooring opportunities including quite a few free three day spots such as Oude Wetering. I would favour the clockwise route round the ringvaart via Lisse & Haarlem. This is a most attractive route, much quieter than the AR motorway, via meers etc. with plenty of mooring opportunities up to Amsterdam.

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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 12:00 #95009

Hello Rebecca,
I would like the following canals and rivers: Canal de Calais, Canal de la Colme, Canal de Bourbourg, Canal de Furnes, Kanaal Niewpoort-Dunkerque, Kanaal Plassendale-Nieuwpoort, Kanaal Gent-OostendeKannal Gent-Terneuzen, Westerschelde, Kanaal door Zuid-Beveland, Oosterschelde and than via Bergse Diepsluis or Krammersluis to the Volkerak, Hollansch Diep, Dortsche Kil, Noord, Lek and Amsterdam-Rijn-Kanaal.
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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 08:09 #95002

The answer depends to some extent on how much barge or boat experience you have and how confident you are of your barge.

Guessing perhaps a lowish score in either area the unfortunate fact is that there is no particularly easy way from Calais to Amsterdam. All routes require transit of some very big waterways or estuaries, and you will be mixing it with some very big traffic. None of these factors present insurmountable problems, just challenges perhaps, but the trip is not like a cruise through the Burgundy Canal! You have to take the trip planning, weather assessments etc. just as seriously as you would for a channel crossing and be ready to mix it with some very big commercial traffic. The commercials are usually no real trouble, but they do rather expect that you know where you are going!

What will really not help is the time of year, with the risk of bad weather and poor visibility in the estuaries, short days and some reasonably long hops between stopovers, particularly for a boat over 15 metres which may not be able to use some of the marinas but is a bit small to mix it with the commercials on their moorings, and perhaps a little slow at 20 metres to keep up with the commercials.

There are three basic routes north . Listed from west to east, these are via the Westerchelde /Oosterschelde, via the Boven Zeeschelde & Antwerp, or via the Maas / Zuid Willemsvaart.

The Westerschelde route involves some very careful weather watching, big estuaries that can be very lumpy in the wrong conditions, and a paucity of moorings unless you know your way around.

The Boven Zeeschelde from Gent to Antwerp requires transit of the upper tidal section of the Schelde, which can be awkward subject to tide times & daylight, and still involves some big waters once in NL.

The Maas or Zuid Willemsvaart routes to the east are perhaps the easiest routes but are by far the longest since one has to cross Belgium first.

I don't know how adventurous or competent you are, but from the sound of it you are crossing the channel by barge, not truck. My suspicion would be that that might be enough excitement for the year, and my suggestion would be that Bruges, Gent & Antwerp are extremely nice cities in which to spend a winter, acclimatise and plan for the lengthening days of spring.

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France to Holland 13 Sep 2017 02:11 #95001

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Hello. Can anyone tell us about routes from Calais to Amsterdam? We are hoping to cross the channel this month so we would be travelling during October and November. We have a 20 metre barge. This will be our first trip to Europe, we were hoping to spend Christmas in Paris but we now know how hard it is to get a mooring there. We have found a mooring in Amsterdam and looking on a map it seems there are quite a few routes to choose from so if anyone has suggestions for us I would be truly grateful. Thanks.
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