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TOPIC: Arras and the Scarpe Supériore

Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 28 Oct 2018 08:14 #102125

Lynn, Very best of luck. I battered my barge against the Arras issue in Spring 2012 when the bief had been closed for the French Olympic rowing and canoeing teams for their training. Fat lot of good it did them.
Then the French promised the closure was temporary and I had a copy of the letter, and the canal would be available post Olympics.
We're still waiting!!!

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 28 Oct 2018 02:08 #102124

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Lynn Woods wrote: Somme Tourisme are going out of their way to support our commercial cruise and tour initiative with a dedicated boat planned for 2020 in Hauts de France and some proof-of-concept tours running between Abbeville and St-Quentin (via the Canal de la Sensee) in March and April. Local press coverage only last week.

I have already tooted at them about getting the Ham section of the Canal de la Somme reopened (well, don't ask, don't get) and I'll flag our concerns about Arras too. Each of my boats brings c1.5m Euros into the local economy each year.

Lynn


Pleased to hear you are being well received by Tourism Somme. I wish you the very best.

Concerning getting to Arras I regret to say you will have to use your coach for the last few kilometres. As I'm sure you will have read, I have been trying for over a decade to gain entry to the wonderful bassin right in the centre of Arras with no success. The Arras local authority now have control of the last sector and are not inclined to help craft get to their city. By all means try them and I wish you well. If you have any further information please post here.

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 27 Oct 2018 21:54 #102122

Somme Tourisme are going out of their way to support our commercial cruise and tour initiative with a dedicated boat planned for 2020 in Hauts de France and some proof-of-concept tours running between Abbeville and St-Quentin (via the Canal de la Sensee) in March and April. Local press coverage only last week.

I have already tooted at them about getting the Ham section of the Canal de la Somme reopened (well, don't ask, don't get) and I'll flag our concerns about Arras too. Each of my boats brings c1.5m Euros into the local economy each year.

Lynn
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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 21 Sep 2018 10:48 #101282

Very sorry to hear this Bob, you have worked so hard on this for such a long time.
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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 20 Sep 2018 23:43 #101270

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I have just returned to La Chouette from attending the User Group Meeting (Commission Locale des Usagers) of VNF Nord Pas-de-Calais in Lille.

I am disappointed to have to report that the meeting was informed that responsibility for the upper reaches of the Scarpe Supérieure has been ceded to the local authority of Arras, the Communauté Urbane d'Arras, (CUA). This confirms what I was told verbally in July. The CUA are proposing to close, definitively, the final lock, l'écluse de Saint Nicolas, and place a bridge across at near water level to enable local residents to cross in safety.

Subsequent to my protestations back in July, VNF did ask CUA to install a moveable bridge so as to enable the "possibility" for boats to use the écluse de Saint Nicolas to gain access to the bassin in the centre of Arras. CUA declined.

I expressed my deep disappointment to the meeting as I had been trying to enable boats to get to Arras since 2009. VNF, however, now have no authority over that sector.

I hereby throw in the towel.

Bob
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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 06 Jul 2018 14:28 #99673

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Tim Hackett wrote: Is it worth garnering support from LVBHB for an objection? Their members also cruise France. Perhaps ask Petra Spithost who is a DBA member and on the board of LVBHB. It all helps.


Good suggestion, Tim, but I would rather wait until I get a reply to my email to my contact asking for chapter and verse. At the moment I have nothing more than a conversation. I haven't seen an avis à la batellerie on this issue. If anyone has do please let me know.

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 06 Jul 2018 14:09 #99672

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Paul Facer wrote: " an unofficial?? policy that favoured closure or non-repair when structures suffered problems."

Lets see what happens to the Canal de Ardennes Tam, I don't hold out much hope as it has already been suggested that it may not be reopened.

Any thoughts on that Bob?


My reading of the avis à la batellerie is more optimistic. I recommend you to read it along with the Arrêté attached to it and issued by the Préfet des Ardennes.

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It's clearly going to take time but it reads as if they *do* plan to repair l'eecluse Neuville-Day.

Interestingly, they are about to start dredging the canal in the bief No. 7 de Seuill, albeit some way from the flight of locks which is now closed from La Chesne to Semuy.

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 04 Jul 2018 09:44 #99642

" an unofficial?? policy that favoured closure or non-repair when structures suffered problems."

Lets see what happens to the Canal de Ardennes Tam, I don't hold out much hope as it has already been suggested that it may not be reopened.

Any thoughts on that Bob?

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 03 Jul 2018 13:33 #99632

Is it worth garnering support from LVBHB for an objection? Their members also cruise France. Perhaps ask Petra Spithost who is a DBA member and on the board of LVBHB. It all helps.

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 01 Jul 2018 17:58 #99600

Only Friday we had an "heated discussion" with someone who works for a local hire firm. We said that the long term future of the French canal network was sorely at risk, quoting instances where the only local interest (if any) was to close them to through traffic to allow village festivities/swimming matches and so on, and an unofficial?? policy that favoured closure or non-repair when structures suffered problems.
He rejected this totally, but sadly the Arras affair only reaffirms the points Di and I were making. Hire companies only have a vested interest in the canals within a week or so cruising distance of their base of course, and I can't think of any group(s) other than ANPEI and (hopefully) DBA that would make objections to the closure of St Nicholas.

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Arras and the Scarpe Supériore 01 Jul 2018 13:46 #99595

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First the good news:

Weed cutting and removal (Travaux de faucardage) is, and will be, taking place on the upper section of the Scarpe Supériore according to these avis à la batellerie:

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Now the bad news:

One of my contacts in Lille (VNF Nord-Pas-de-Calais) has told me that the Arras local authority has taken over responsibility for the very section that is detailed above. Interesting, isn't it? Well, they did it a few years ago in order to allow the French canoeists to train for the 2012 Olympics. Then handed it back to VNF when their training didn't do any good. Perhaps I shouldn't say that.

Well, the Really Bad News is they are planning to close, definitively, l'écluse de Saint Nicolas. it is said for safety reasons. This is the last lock on the waterway which gives, or would give, access to the delightful Bassin which I and other DBA members have worked to gain access to for over ten years. This is disappointing, to say the least.

Bob

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