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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 21 Feb 2019 18:48 #104034

Tower Hamlets have now got round to advising us formally that the planning application was refused.

Reasons for Refusal
1 - The proposed development would result in the overdevelopment of the Limehouse marina
which would lead to an unacceptable loss of open water space. The development is
therefore contrary to policy 7.28 and 7.30 of the London Plan (2016), policy SP04 of the Core
Strategy (2010), and policy DM12 of the Managing Development Document (2013).
2 - The proposed development by reason of its siting and scale would negatively impact
upon navigation within the Limehouse Marina. The development is therefore contrary to
policies 7.27 and 7.30 of the London Plan (2016), policy SP04 of the Core Strategy (2010),
and policy DM12 of the Managing Development Document (2013).
3 - The proposed development would result in increased pollution and would have an
unacceptable impact upon neighbouring residents and water quality of the Limehouse
Marina. The development is therefore contrary to policy 7.14 of the London Plan (2016),
policy SP03 Core Strategy (2010) and policy DM12 of the Managing Development Document
(2013).

Doubtless the new owners of BWML will appeal.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 14 Feb 2019 20:23 #103887

Well spotted - good result - until the inevitable appeal!

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 14 Feb 2019 20:08 #103886

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Have just looked on TH website and found minutes from the committee, as follows

Minutes:

An update report was tabled.



The Applications Team Leader, Development, introduced the report which concerned an application for the construction of 5 leisure pontoons at Limehouse Marina. The Planning Case Officer then presented the report informing the Committee that the application had first been considered at the meeting on 14 November 2018 at which time it had been deferred for a site visit. Members had requested this because of concerns around open access, openness, navigation, and amenity. 9 letters of objection related to the application were received and the issues raised had been addressed in the update report.



The Committee was invited to ask questions of the Planning Case Officer and Members indicated that they had no questions that they wished to ask.



The Committee then moved to vote on the application. The Vice-Chair proposed and the Chair seconded that Members vote on the officer recommendation and on a vote of 1 in favour, 3 against, and 2 abstentions, the Committee indicated that it did not support the officer recommendation.



There was an adjournment between 6:48pm and 6:50pm.



The Committee indicated that it was minded not to support the recommendation because of concerns around:

· Navigation – although tests had been undertaken, the Committee was concerned that a separate verification had not been undertaken by the Council. Additionally since the pontoons would be for leisure use, they would be used by inexperienced persons and the reduced navigation space was a concern.

· Substantial harm to the marina from the additional use that the pontoons would generate.

· Over capacity of mooring.

· Loss of open water and open character.

· Pollution of the environment from the additional boats.

The Committee were of a view that these factors would constitute substantial harm.



The Vice-Chair indicated that the Committee was minded to refuse the application; the proposal was seconded by Councillor Salva-Macallan and on a vote of 5 in favour and 1 abstention, the Committee



RESOLVED



That the application to construct five pontoons to provide leisure moorings at Limehouse Marina, Limehouse Basin, The Highway, London, E14 8BT be REFUSED.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 24 Jan 2019 20:17 #103423

Planning had been rejected. Don’t know any further details although would of course expect there to be an appeal.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 06 Dec 2018 11:20 #102838

I believe the outcome of the meeting on the 14th was for a site visit prior to final decision, it would appear the committee are on site today (they did not announce when it would take place - I guess for obvious reasons). A bit of a shame as the "wall" had hardly any visitors on it today whereas on other days it can be quite busy.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 09 Nov 2018 07:07 #102295

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I had an e mail from TH with the following attached

Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (as amended)
Application for: Full Planning Permission
Location: Limehouse Marina Limehouse Basin, The Highway, London, E14 8BT
Proposal: Construction of five pontoons to provide leisure moorings
Reference: PA/17/03268
Further to your observations regarding the above planning application. I write to inform you that the Development Committee
will consider this application at their meeting to be held on 14 November, 2018. Please be aware that if you have sent in a
petition, you should pass this information on to those who have signed the petition as we will not be able to send individual
letters to the signatories.
The meeting will take place in the Council Chamber at the Town Hall, Mulberry Place, 5 Clove Crescent, London E14 2BG,
commencing at 6.30pm. Members of the public are welcome to attend the meeting and observe the proceedings. The public
gallery can accommodate up to 50 people. Copies of the agenda papers will be available to view at One Stop Shops and
libraries across the borough and at www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/committee .
The Council's Committee procedures do allow local residents and other interested parties to address the Committee for up to
3 minutes before the Committee debate the application. These are verbal presentations only and no additional material can be
presented or given to Councillors during the meeting. Two slots are available on a first come basis. If you wish to register to
speak you must inform the Senior Committee Officer by 4.00pm on 12 November, 2018. It is recommended that email
or telephone is used for this purpose. This communication must provide the name and contact details of the intended speaker
and whether they will be speaking for or against the application. For STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE please either
call 020 7364 4877 or email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. For DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE please either call 020 7364
4881 or email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
If you have any questions regarding the planning issues covered in the committee report, please phone 020 7364 5009. For
further information regarding the running of the committee meeting, please contact the relevant Committee Clerk.
Technical Support Team (Planning)
On behalf of Divisional Director, Planning and Building Control

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 08 Nov 2018 16:04 #102273

Wow timing is everything! Having posted that I then hear about a thread on London boaters which has a blurry screen shot saying its been approved after some wrangling and now going for final approval with a meeting on 14th November. Andrew Phasey at SPCC appears to leading a charge on it - 07850 753 633.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 08 Nov 2018 15:50 #102272

This is still ongoing and I believe even more revisions etc have been made with various toings and goings to the planners. As previously seems unfair that a submitted plan can be revised and no counter arguments supplied from various interested parties.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 23 Aug 2018 10:11 #100638

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I agree the driver is purely financial and I think its unfair that revised plans can be submitted, but no further comments are allowed. I also note that this is still down for delegated approval despite all the objections. Surely the planning committee should be the route for any controversial planning decisions, if the council were following their own planning procedures.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 23 Aug 2018 09:58 #100637

Andrew Harrison wrote: I cant see anything in the new plans that would change the Councils own Place Shaping Team finding that the proposals are not acceptable.


I'd agree however the fact that the deadline has long since passed and adjustments are being made and supporting evidence submitted would suggest they are being steered in a way for this to be granted. For the new owners it would be a significant loss of income if not approved as visitor mooring rates are high.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 23 Aug 2018 09:45 #100636

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I cant see anything in the new plans that would change the Councils own Place Shaping Team finding that the proposals are not acceptable.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 22 Aug 2018 16:46 #100623

Whilst being a PITA about other planning issues affecting Limehouse (Thames pathways) I noticed that new documents had been added to the planning portal on 20th August. There has still been no outcome although I have heard that the planners are positive about it etc.

One item I noted within the document is that SPCC and other groups will have free of charge grandfathered rights to moor for their cruises so long as bookings are in place by end of December each year. SPCC were indeed vocal against the submission and I suspect they remain vocal against it even with such a concession as it still means they cannot do ad hoc events as sometimes is the desire. I don't know if the DBA are considered as a group eligible for grandfather rights or not.

No idea what the window attachments relate to assume that is something added by mistake for another property.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 17 Jun 2018 14:36 #99396

Biggest change I see Is the actual size of the pontoons being defined and the boats being a little smaller in length on the pontoons. Same overall impact.
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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 17 Jun 2018 13:22 #99392

Version 5 of the plan has now been added to the Planning Portal - attached

Doesn't look any better to me!

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 02 Mar 2018 19:19 #97009

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I have just had a look on TH planning website and noticed an additional document had been added. Its from the councils place shaping team, identifying the proposal as not acceptable. I have attached a copy.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 01 Feb 2018 16:38 #96411

Wow did some good research in that reply.

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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 01 Feb 2018 15:26 #96408

RYA response 31/01/18
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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 01 Feb 2018 13:31 #96406

12 additional comments added yesterday including I believe from CA and the RYA.
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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 31 Jan 2018 07:38 #96388

Thanks Andrew, I notice the Limehouse Bertholders Assocation objection isnt on there so have sent this document to the Chairman. I suspect like you he emailed their response directly. Will be interesting to see how the planners view it all. A good mix of local land residents and crusing clubs + IWA. Only neutral was a lady who didnt like the hen and stag parties that gather there and beleives it might be better policed.

Considering my bow looks at this space ive not come across any crazy parties on teh moorings. Yes some hens come and regularly use a broads crusier, normally over by early evening.
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Limehouse basin 24 Hr moorings 30 Jan 2018 21:47 #96386

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Find attached the 57 comments which I will also e mail to TH Planning, if they can't find them for themselves.
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