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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 25 Jan 2022 09:33 #127708

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Guys lighten up....... Please

Yes I have been in foul weather in the Bristol Channel and Irish sea in small boats. I've been on the Rhone with a 80km (50mph) Mistral blowing against the flow, not nice.

But not in a barge....... In boats built for off shore use.

Some here might recognise conditions similar to this. 😮😁

www.facebook.com/groups/482821425726/permalink/10166358929820727/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share

On a serious note, if crossing The Channel in a barge, the worse possible thing to do is to say "it has to be on this date, I've booked a skipper". I've heard it said on several occasions, some have been lucky with the weather, others have had very frightening experiences. Much better to say "I'm going to cross The Channel when the sea state is good, a big high pressure system sitting over us". Strangely this often happens in February.😮, Who would have thought a winter crossing, but watch out for fog conditions.

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 25 Jan 2022 00:46 #127706

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Peter Cawson wrote: Yes but there are always a few who don't listen to forecasts, but I suppose these are the same people that don't learn about how to cope with a storm if they do get caught out!

As a regular cross-channel and N Sea sailor, I quote the Swallows' father's telegram ... " IF NOT DUFFERS WON'T DROWN" (Arthur Ransome, 'Swallows & Amazons' for those who don't recognise it).
Weather forecasts and understanding them is vital around the UK shore and only duffers ignore them.

Of course a F10 can blow off the wheelhouse roof, dinghy and solar panels - or even tear a barge off a quiet pontoon - when miles inland so precautions and insurance might be useful there, too!

Pete

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 25 Jan 2022 00:11 #127705

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Paul Hayes wrote: Don't insurers demand a Force 4 or less actual and forecast for barges to be at sea?

So if a storm is forecast they might say you are not covered.

So planning for a storm which is Beaufort Wind Force 10 that is a 52 to 59 knot wind speed seems a little unrealistic for barge owners.

Great for off shore sailors.

Just a thought

Paul Hayes


Yes but there are always a few who don't listen to forecasts, but I suppose these are the same people that don't learn about how to cope with a storm if they do get caught out!


I doubt whether this guy was expecting quite such a rough ride!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kg_QweiLy0

Peter

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 19:21 #127701

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Mike Gibbons wrote: So planning for a storm which is Beaufort Wind Force 10 that is a 52 to 59 knot wind speed seems a little unrealistic for barge owners.

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Of course. But it'll probably be interesting to see what they say!

Mike


True

Just a joke Mike 😁

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 19:06 #127699

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So planning for a storm which is Beaufort Wind Force 10 that is a 52 to 59 knot wind speed seems a little unrealistic for barge owners.

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Of course. But it'll probably be interesting to see what they say!

Mike

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 18:55 #127698

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Don't insurers demand a Force 4 or less actual and forecast for barges to be at sea?

So if a storm is forecast they might say you are not covered.

So planning for a storm which is Beaufort Wind Force 10 that is a 52 to 59 knot wind speed seems a little unrealistic for barge owners.

Great for off shore sailors.

Just a thought

Paul Hayes
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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 17:13 #127694

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Breast ropes to keep the satellite dish aligned?

And I like to put lashings over my wheelhouse roof. Have seen several wheel house roof panels blow off on other ships!

Otherwise sit back and enjoy not being at sea.

Balliol.

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 16:52 #127693

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I thought Storm Planning for a barge was rather simple.
Double or triple up ropes, hunker down and open bottle. 🤔

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 16:30 #127692

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Ah, the need to check what you write....... my turn to fall victim to the inability to edit!

Karen did indeed send this message but I don't know if she is a Knox-Johnston. However autocorrect clearly preferred her name to 'Haven'!

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STORM PLANNING - A WEBINAR 24 Jan 2022 16:27 #127691

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Hi all

We've had the following info about a "Planning for a Storm" webinar being set up and run by Karen Knox-Johnston which is DBA's preferential insurance supplier. It's not specifically for barges and is one of their general series of webinars but you may well find it interesting. There will be some barge-related webinars for DBA through HK-J coming soon.

PLEASE NOTE - YOU NEED TO REGISTER IN ADVANCE BY CLICKING ON THE ZOOM LINK BELOW

Best wishes

Mike Gibbons
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We’re continuing our Haven Helpful Hints by offering your Members access to another FREE webinar, this time about how to prepare for stormy weather.

We’ve again teamed up with some industry heavyweights, this time around it’s Colin Stracey, RYA Yachtmaster instructor of Premier Sailing, and our very own Karl Davis, HKJ’s claims expert, who will be on hand to give the best hints and tips on looking after your boat. There will also be the opportunity for a Q&A session afterwards (or during if the mood takes you!) and our very own Paul Knox-Johnston will be hosting once more.


Planning for a Storm Webinar – Monday 31 January 2022 10:00am us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/5816426940604/WN_6dLotVK1S8SExV3QGMj3bg



All About Colin Stracey

Colin trained in the Merchant Navy and sailed as an Engineer Officer with British and Commonwealth. As a Yachtmaster Instructor Colin teaches Navigation, Diesel Engine Maintenance, VHF and all the Practical Courses up to and including Yachtmaster Offshore.

About Premier Sailing

Colin started sailing aged 10 with 3rd Chalkwell Bay Sea Scouts and has continued to sail throughout his working life. “I am forever indebted to the Scout Troop for giving me the skills and encouragement to sail.” After a career in the Merchant Navy with Union Castle Line, Colin retrained and worked in industry and the third sector, notably with the National Trust where he looked after commercial activities including Steam Yacht Gondola, and with CREATE Tottenham where he worked with disadvantaged young people.
This passion for helping others to enjoy sailing and experience the thrill of sailing is shared by Jan, who worked with Midland Bank and the NSPCC before becoming an enthusiastic primary school teacher. Colin and Jan are passionate about giving anybody who would like it the opportunity to enjoy sailing. The world is a different place when at sea – no television – no mobile – no pressure. The constantly-changing scenery and wildlife are a wonder to behold.
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