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Channel crossing safety equipment 10 Oct 2019 11:30 #110245

Hello Alan,

It would be good to see your GJW list.

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Channel crossing safety equipment 10 Oct 2019 08:47 #110241

My insurance company GJW gave me a full list of items and a reference to the MCA website.
If you want it I can search for it.

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Channel crossing safety equipment 08 Oct 2019 20:24 #110188

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I am going to be a party pooper here, but presuming a new build of a road transportable size I would go for the road transport. Unless, that is, you really want the experience of a channel crossing.

This matters particularly if the boat is also your home.

Ian Ferguson’s advice is excellent although not absolutely exhaustive. I have skippered numerous barge crossings over the years, both short trips to/from Dover or the Thames, and longer trips NL up to the north east,, but frankly I do not wish to do it again. The channel is now so busy, the ships increasingly fast moving, and the quality of the watch keeping seems appalling, all making you feel a bit like a 7 knot waddling sitting duck crossing the shipping lanes as three container ships steam line abreast at 20+ knots towards your preferred route. You can spend a lot of time steaming up or down channel to avoid shipping.

The time and expense of proper preparations (presuming that you don’t already have a stock of all the necessary “extras” for the sea trip), and including proper adherence to MCA rules (if you want your insurance to be valid) plus the costs of a properly professional skipper if you need one, plus marina fees if the weather turns bad, plus ferry fares for the crew etc. all easily add up to close to the cost of a truck and crane if you cost things properly. Fine if you really really want to do the trip, but the sensible and safe course for many is a truck.

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Channel crossing safety equipment 06 Oct 2019 11:43 #110082

Hello Dave,

You might be thinking of this:
barges.org/library-members/regulations/dba-code-of-practice-for-short-sea-voyages/viewdocument

+1 for Richard's comment on fuel - as long as the engine keeps working you can survive surprisingly atrocious weather.
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Channel crossing safety equipment 06 Oct 2019 10:44 #110081

Personally I would be reasonably happy to cross the channel or any other bit of water where the boat could move around as long as I had a certain supply of clean fuel, even to the extent of fitting a temporary 3 way fuel cock with a plastic hose that could draw fuel from containers. Crud in fuel can stop the heart as well as the engine!
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Channel crossing safety equipment 05 Oct 2019 22:32 #110074

Hello Dave,

Try MGN 599 the MCA SOLAS requirements

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Channel crossing safety equipment 05 Oct 2019 21:49 #110072

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Thanks for the reply. I’ve checked out those articles but they’re not what I remember.

Dave

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Channel crossing safety equipment 05 Oct 2019 19:45 #110071

DBA's two main articles on channel crossing are in the Knowledgebase / Cruising section, 'Taking your barge to sea' and 'Crossng the channel'. These are the most likely places for a chec-list. [though I've not looked at them for years!]

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Channel crossing safety equipment 05 Oct 2019 19:41 #110070

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I'm sure that I've seen a list, somewhere on the DBA site, of safety equipment required aboard for a Channel crossing. I'm trying to find it as a check list to prepare for my crossing next Spring. I've found a number of forum posts / discussions, MCA regulations, etc but they are not what I remember.

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