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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 23 Oct 2019 22:44 #110870

Paul Hayes wrote: An engineering apprenticeship started 50 years ago, a lifetime making "machinery" work, and 20 years working on narrowboats and barges, plus another twenty on cruisers.


Using all fingers on both hands, that makes you well over 100, Paul - and you don't look a day over 65!
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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 22 Oct 2019 08:45 #110768

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Thanks Paul. I've had a lifetime making and designing clothes and so not really a transferable skill when it comes to engines haha!, All the best
Gary

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 22 Oct 2019 08:43 #110767

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Thanks Frank. Will give them a call as well 👍

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 22:54 #110757

Hi Gary,
Hindle controls in Bradford, Hindle group.com. Manufacture push/pull cables, and are also main distributors for Morse cables and controls. I have bought direct from them, and saved quite a bit. Quite helpful if you talk to them.
Good luck,
Frank.
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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 20:16 #110748

Hi Gary
An engineering apprenticeship started 50 years ago, a lifetime making "machinery" work, and 20 years working on narrowboats and barges, plus another twenty on cruisers.
But I am still learning.:-)
Keep asking questions. The "Search" facility, Suppliers Guide are good things to use.
Paul Hayes

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 20:05 #110746

Yes to ASAP. Phone them. They are very helpful.

Pete
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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 16:04 #110727

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many thanks, Paul, I do appreciate all of this invaluable information. It amazes me how all you guys (and girls!) know so much and will I ever get there!!!! cheers
Gary

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 15:50 #110724

Hello Gary and welcome.
I'll go on a little from the former post, I would slightly disagree with Chris, the control cables are in fact for the main part flexible steel cable inner running through the outer sheath, the "rod" extends from each end of the sheath to make attachment onto the "Control", "Throttle (Governor) " and "Gearbox" a standard function. They generally come in 300mm (1 Foot) differing lengths. You may need to buy / make up fixing connections if starting from scratch. A selection guide (American) is here www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/document.do?docId=736 There are also Youtube videos, Just search Installing Morse Control Cables.

Note that there are two sizes and specifications for "Morse Controls" which in itself is a generic name given to this type of control system, although the actuator levers and cables may be made by differently named companies.

As said in the last post ASAP Supplies have extensive information here www.asap-supplies.com/steering-and-controls/control-cables-and-fittings

They offer a discount for DBA - The Barge Association members, there "Part finder" service or a phone call may be worthwhile. Other good Chandlers (online and in the physical) will also be able to help.

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 14:17 #110722

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Hi Chris, thank you for making me feel so welcome. I think joining the DBA could turn out ot be the best 40 quid I've ever spent! Cheers, Gary

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 13:44 #110717

Gary, Please feel very welcome here. We all had to start at the beginning and we are all somewhere on the learning curve...
May I suggest that you do an internet search for Morse Controls. That might give you an idea of the sort of thing you may need. There are two parts. The lever(s) and the cables.
The two operations, throttle and forward/reverse gear selection can be done with a single lever, or a double lever one for each. In many ways a single lever is easier to use, although it is a matter of preference.
The control cables are larger versions of bicycle brake cables, but use a rod instead of a flexible wire. They work the same way though by clamping the outer sheath which allows the rod to actuate the gear and throttle. A rod is used because they have to push as well as pull.
They come in various lengths and you will need to measure the distance between control position and gearbox/engine throttle with curves of a generous radius. About a metre is quite sufficient. A tighter radius is possible, but it will require more effort and there will be greater wear.
ASAP Supplies give good service and should be able to supply all you need.
CH

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Daf 575 new cables to engage gears and throttle 21 Oct 2019 10:30 #110703

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Hi all, let me say quickly, I am a complete novice! Can anybody point me in the right direction re the above? I was informed by someone helping me to sort the engine out that these would be required but I don't know where to buy them. I live in York. Thank you. I hope I don't become to annoying on the forum as I fear I be asking about everything!! , but at 58 yrs of age, jumping into something you know nowt about seemed like a good mid life crisis to have., thanks, Gary

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