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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 17:28 #114445

Thank you, it gives me an idea. I will let you know how long it takes us.

Mary

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 15:59 #114442

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No we haven't.
We are based East Midlands and heading up via River Trent.

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 15:49 #114441

have you been on the Humber before

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 15:07 #114440

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Thank you very much for your reply.
We are booked into Hull Marina dry dock as of 28/04/20.
Would be good to maybe meet up and discuss options and have the benefit of your knowledge. We are looking at all possible options at present.
Sue Law

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 14:40 #114439

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Same advice in essence then, and the detail depends upon whether you want to do the slightly shorter run to Ijmuiden or go on down to Zeebrugge. The weather might make that decision. Head for Smiths Knoll Lanby and make the decision then, and if the worst happens Yarmouth is a last resort but watch the tide across the entrance at Gorlestone!

Either way the essence of the advice is that there is little point coast hugging down to Ramsgate. As Andy says there are very few points of refuge along the way, and if you time the tides correctly for a good run the the tide times are iikely to be wrong for at least some of the points of refuge there are. Best to go straight across if all else remains good!

By the way, things may have changed but when I last did this run (20+ years ago) Ijmuiden was a much easier point of entry (in terms of procedures, reporting and traffic) than the Maas to Rotterdam.

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 13:36 #114437

Hi Sue
I took my barge from Hull to Zeebrugge in August 2016 in brilliant weather.
My insurance company insisted on a qualified skipper as I only have a day skippers so restricted to 40 miles off

He was useless and went to bed when it got dark.

Im in Hull so there is plenty of knowledge here.
I spoke with a chap who recommended we come from Hull on the out going tide to Spurn Point.
Anchor inside spurn point till the tide turns.
Then go out into the north Sea and you are going with the tide to off Lowestoft then set your heading for Zeebrugge
By the time the tide is again flowing with you for the rest of the way.
We didn't do this because the hired skipper insisted we went straight out from the Humber.
we were making 1 knot for a long time and the whole boring journey took 35 hours.
Loose loose..... more time and more fuel,
My charts are on board in Belgium so cant be more specific.
Subject to travel restriction Im hoping to get to Brugge on Tuesday so if you like Ill bring the charts back and meet up in Hull to go over them.

Which dock are you going into
either way I wish you good luck bon voyage

Best regards
Pete
ms Eliza

The route is the same as PO ferries follow from Hull to Zeebrugge . The one that Dell boy was going to follow on Fools and Horses.

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 10:56 #114430

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It's a long time since I last did the run so stretching the memory. 31 hours from Ijmuiden to the Humber Bridge rings a bell however.

Smiths Knoll is just a waypoint, a bit north east of Great Yarmouth. Used to be a light ship there.

Balliol.

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Crossing the Channel 14 Mar 2020 09:53 #114426

Hello,

I’m hoping to do the crossing next month from IJmuiden. Balliol, how long has it taken you to make the crossing to Smith Knolls?

Mary

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Crossing the Channel 12 Mar 2020 17:43 #114383

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Subject to size and tonnage you may be required to have a qualified professional skipper under MCA regs.

My preference in terms of routing was always to sail Humber to Smiths Knoll (just off Great Yarmouth), then straight across to Ijmuiden (or vice versa of course). That keeps you clear of a lot of traffic, and shoals. Much easier than crossing the Thames estuary, threading the Goodwins etc., and the entry to Ijmuiden is very easy.

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Crossing the Channel 12 Mar 2020 16:56 #114379

Hello Sue,

On balance I suggest that the passage down the East Coast is more tricky, with few good ports of shelter than the crossing from Ramsgate to Dunkerque / Nieuwpoort.

Do look at our Crossing the Channel advice on the website barges.org/knowledgebase/cruising/taking-a-barge-to-sea and follow the links to further helpful articles.

If you need a professional skipper for the East Coast and/or the Channel crossing I strongly recommend Keith Willard of www.ngmarine.co.uk/

The channel crossing is either terribly dull or much too exciting - but if its on your bucket list to do it - go for it!

(You haven't put your barge on the barge register so I am not sure how big it is-the usual advice is if it fits on a lorry put it on a lorry - its your home!)
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Crossing the Channel 12 Mar 2020 13:59 #114373

Hi Sue,

Alan & Michael Pratt (in the suppliers guide) have offered this service in the past to people we know. I helped move a barge both ways, once in 2013 and back in 2017 .

Was good fun on both occasions.

Thanks,

Simon

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Crossing the Channel 12 Mar 2020 12:02 #114368

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We are a live aboard Dutch Barge = we are planning a trip from our current mooring in the East Midlands to Hull in April to carry out dry dock essential works and then a trip down the east coast to Ramsgate and then over the Channel. We are reasonably competent but are wondering about taking a pilot/captain with us for the Channel crossing.
Does anyone have experience of using a third party for help/support?
Any contacts?
Anything to consider/avoid?
All contributions most gratefully received. Thank you

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