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ES-TRIN renewal and AIS certification 06 May 2020 19:57 #115763

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Our ES-TRIN / CVO recertification is due in 2023 and includes Rhine Certification: I was of the understanding that the AIS had to be checked by an "Authorised Body" certified by the Rhine Authorities, and a new certificate of compliance issued.
Unfortunately, I don't have the documents to hand to check this currently but would be relieved if it wasn't necessary.
John

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ES-TRIN renewal and AIS certification 06 May 2020 18:00 #115759

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[quote="Jan Pieterse"

STATES article 7.06is not applicable to pleasure crafts
Even if there is NO AIS they can not refuse a CBB

A good working AIS is needed for BPR/RPR
BPR/RPR does NOT require inspection

flow chart
digital radar. -> NO -> ECDIS in information mode. ->NO periodical AIS inspection needed by renewal CVO


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Thanks Jan, that is how I understood things from the article but I just wondered if I was missing anything in the main text.

Andy: I raised the question because Register Holland for one were certainly saying in September 2018 that all AIS sets had to be re-certified every five years. I am now thinking that they were wrong. As you know there is no specific mention of this in ES-TRIN.

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ES-TRIN renewal and AIS certification 06 May 2020 14:43 #115755

Artikel 7.06 van het ES-TRIN, dat over (her)keuringen gaat, geldt niet voor de
grote pleziervaart, zoals te lezen is in hoofdstuk 26. Een AIS-keuring is dus geen CBB/CvO-eis voor de grote plezier- vaart. Het afgeven van een CBB mag dus niet geweigerd worden als er geen AIS- inbouwverklaring aanwezig is. Zelfs als er niet eens een AIS aanwezig is, mogen ze geen CBB weigeren. Een goed wer- kende AIS aan boord hebben is een BPR- en RPR-eis, maar dat heeft niets met het CvO/CBB te maken. Een AIS moet tech- nisch wel voldoen aan artikel 7.06 van ES-TRIN, maar het BPR/RPR vereist geen keuring

STATES article 7.06is not applicable to pleasure crafts
Even if there is NO AIS they can not refuse a CBB

A good working AIS is needed for BPR/RPR
BPR/RPR does NOT require inspection

flow chart
digital radar. -> NO -> ECDIS in information mode. ->NO periodical AIS inspection needed by renewal CVO

Please anybody else check me...since I only had 2 cups of coffee
( and a long discussion with the better half about why she feels we should not fly to Holland go to the barge in June)
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ES-TRIN renewal and AIS certification 06 May 2020 11:14 #115752

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The LVBHB magazine "Bokkepoot" no. 238 page 36 contains an article and flow chart regarding AIS re-certification which appears to be saying that a vessel which is not a commercial vessel and does not carry radar does not need to have its AIS installation subjected to periodic inspection, contrary to advice I received from Register Holland in 2018.

I have been meaning to wade through the article and translate it properly but just wondered if there was a Dutch speaker here who could offer a precis? Or indeed a further opinion or an electronic version of the article that could be GT'ed?

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