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TOPIC: On the Meuse heading south in March

On the Meuse heading south in March 18 Feb 2020 02:56 #113851

Let us hope that some of the water sinks in and replenishes groundwater and that silting is not bad enough to close the canal in Spring as happened last time there was flooding.

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On the Meuse heading south in March 17 Feb 2020 21:46 #113846

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I DID A SIMILAR TRIP LAST WEEK BY CAR TO ESTABLISH PLACES I COULD STOPOVER FOR 2/3 WEEKS AT A TIME.TRAVELING SOUTH FROM NAMUR THE RIVER IS VERY HIGH , SEVERAL METRES , AND RUNNING VERY FAST , CERTAINLY AS FAR UP AS VERDUN . ALL THE FLOODPLAINS ARE UNDERWATER AND I BELIEVE NAVIGATION IS NOT POSSIBLE AT THE MOMENT.

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On the Meuse heading south in March 04 Feb 2020 19:39 #113550

It's beautiful - a great place to wait for spring and before heading on up le canal des Vosges. Totally recommend the trip up the Maas / Meuse - we loved it. But we came the other way into Belgium from Arras, Valenciennes, Péronnes, Mons etc.
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On the Meuse heading south in March 04 Feb 2020 18:16 #113549

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looks grand to me Judy & Simon, (but having been used to the Somerset levels perhaps I am biased). Still have to get under the bridge in Kortrijk but would certainly give this a lash.

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On the Meuse heading south in March 04 Feb 2020 15:30 #113539

Sorry don't know why one photo appears twice?

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On the Meuse heading south in March 04 Feb 2020 15:23 #113538

This is the Meuse today at Lacroix-sur-Meuse where we are overwintering having been (happily) stuck in Verdun 2 months or so in the summer for lack of water!
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On the Meuse heading south in March 03 Feb 2020 19:27 #113510

>An "Extra vigilance" avis has also just been issued due to high water on the Moselle near Thionville. good news for summer boaters!

Unfortunately that is because the precipitation in the Alps last week and this weekend has been rain, to quite high altitudes - 2500m+, instead of snow. So water run off now instead of snow melt in spring/early summer.
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On the Meuse heading south in March 03 Feb 2020 18:47 #113507

Peter Cawson wrote: I meant to say Sedan, not C-M. Sorry no Edit facility

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On the Meuse heading south in March 03 Feb 2020 15:37 #113504

An "Extra vigilance" avis has also just been issued due to high water on the Moselle near Thionville. good news for summer boaters!
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On the Meuse heading south in March 03 Feb 2020 14:54 #113503

Other rivers rising from the same region such as the Doubs have also just gone into the 'yellow - risk of local flooding' zone on the vigicrues.gouv.fr site

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On the Meuse heading south in March 03 Feb 2020 14:03 #113499

Probably not relevant to anyone at the moment, but an avis issued today states the river is closed between 4 Cheminees and 3 Fontaines due to high water.
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On the Meuse heading south in March 02 Feb 2020 20:01 #113471

I meant to say Sedan, not C-M. Sorry no Edit facility

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On the Meuse heading south in March 02 Feb 2020 20:00 #113470

John Wilson wrote: As stated, depends on rainfall etc. On the Upper Meuse ie above Namur and into France, they tend to open the barrages after heavy rainfall to lower the water levels and thus ensure adequate airdraft. This results in strong currents. Normally, if you have an adequate engine this should be OK, though I have had to go down to the moorings in Sedan and Charleville-Meziéres in reverse a couple of times as turning round was too risky/impossible. Once coming out of the Ardennes at Pont a Bar heading upstream was pretty hairy. Luckily we had asked other ships to move downstream to give us plenty of room to turn. Anyway, let us hope for rain as I think it unlikely water tables and reserves have been adequately replenished after 2 problem years and early closure is again likely.


Yes, the Meuse can be fast flowing though usually not for prolonged periods. Pontoon moorings at Namur are routinely moved to safety during the winter but returned in early April after the likely flood period has ended. At Sedan the pontoons were destroyed by flood quite recently, but I suspect they had been left installed during the winter.

I didn't but should probably have phoned the harbour master at Namur before leaving home to check on the flow rates and adjust starting date accordingly.

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On the Meuse heading south in March 02 Feb 2020 16:57 #113457

As stated, depends on rainfall etc. On the Upper Meuse ie above Namur and into France, they tend to open the barrages after heavy rainfall to lower the water levels and thus ensure adequate airdraft. This results in strong currents. Normally, if you have an adequate engine this should be OK, though I have had to go down to the moorings in Sedan and Charleville-Meziéres in reverse a couple of times as turning round was too risky/impossible. Once coming out of the Ardennes at Pont a Bar heading upstream was pretty hairy. Luckily we had asked other ships to move downstream to give us plenty of room to turn. Anyway, let us hope for rain as I think it unlikely water tables and reserves have been adequately replenished after 2 problem years and early closure is again likely.
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On the Meuse heading south in March 02 Feb 2020 14:49 #113452

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Hi Paul

thanks for this, only reason for going that way was to get onto the Canal de la Meuse whilst there was water in it. We missed going that way by two days last year before heading down the Vosges instead. Plan to go that way this year if we can get through the Meuse. But I take your point, it is very much a moveable feast

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On the Meuse heading south in March 02 Feb 2020 14:06 #113449

Hi Martin
Not a question that has a yes or no answer.

Just like all European river based waterways, spring is a season of possible flood levels, changing weather patterns have made predicting flow rates into a lottery.

For my tuppence worth I would say don't plan to go definitely anywhere in the spring., Indeed high river flow rates can be found now well into June, but on the other hand, it could be as gentle as a lamb.

At the moment, January was dry, but the first few days of February have been warm and wet in central France. Who knows what April will bring.

The Saone is at normal levels, but for the last 3 years it's been in flood now.

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On the Meuse heading south in March 02 Feb 2020 13:50 #113448

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Hi All

its that time again and we are busy planning our route. We intend to leave Kortrijk in late March to travel across Belgium to join the Meuse at Namur and then head south. Is there any problem with high current on the Meuse in late March/Early April. Have completed the Belgium part in September without any problem.

We are 21m barge with DAF 575 power

advice welcome

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