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Flanders Vignette 14 Mar 2020 14:05 #114438

This was posted on the Belgian waterways website, seems that for now at least the Vignette will only be available online.

Following the measures announced by the Federal and Flemish authorities in response to the Covid-19 virus, De Vlaamse Waterweg is forced to adjust its services. from 13/03 6 p.m. to 3 April, the collection offices where sailing licenses are made and will be physically closed, as well as the counters where water recreationists can get help with the purchase of a waterway license www.visuris.be/ measures

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 21:27 #114249

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Done it. Printed off all the details as well. Its an awful site, kept running into brick walls. It is possible but only with a more even tempered wife. Dog now emerged from behind the sofa. Phew.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 21:24 #114248

Martyn Fryer wrote: All done - with a not inconsiderable amount of help from Google Translate !

Google Chrome browser is the easy answer to websites like this!
The 'Guide' shows the English translation of all the pages, which should help others without Chrome.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 21:22 #114247

Richard Cooper wrote: I spoke too soon, The site is convinced that my e mail address is already in use - it is - from when I created an account ages ago, the dog has now hidden behind the sofa due to the bad language.

The 'forgotten password' function works, for me at least.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 20:49 #114246

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I spoke too soon, The site is convinced that my e mail address is already in use - it is - from when I created an account ages ago, the dog has now hidden behind the sofa due to the bad language.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 20:39 #114245

All done - with a not inconsiderable amount of help from Google Translate !

I was under the impression that as it was an online process, there would be a way for the authorities to check licensing on-line. Part of the 'sell' on their website is their desire to be paper free.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 20:29 #114244

There is now a blow-by-blow guide to the Flemish vignette online application, In the Knowledgebase under Cruising in Belgium
It's a quick first draft but may be helpful. There are various ways to hop between pages on the Visuris website but the guide should cover all the essentials.

The website has MANY bugs. It seems to have been built far too fast! At the Belgian Boat Show Jill mentions, the staff simply couldn't add my 16m Dutch boat to the system. They had forgotten that small Dutch boats don't have to be registered so don't have a number! At the Rotterdam Boat Show, I hear there was a near riot because Flanders wouldn't let the Dutch in! They've introduced a bodge for that, so my barge is listed as Verification Cancelled - but still lets me pay for it.

There may be another riot among the Waterway inspectors if they're expected to scan a small QR code from a passing boat.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 16:37 #114237

We were at the Ghent Boat Show last month (February) and even the officials there took the best part of an hour to process our application for a twelve month vignette! Friends tried to purchase a three month vignette to start in October 2020 but this proved impossible to do online at that time. The cost is 25% cheaper if applied for on line. I registered an account and entered ships details but going back onto the website now it is not showing my permit or boat! I think that there is still some work to be done on the site.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 13:41 #114232

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Slight correction Pete, www.visuris.be .

The bit that I got stuck on in creating the account is that you have to confirm your phone number, by responding with a texted code to the webpage provided in the text.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 13:40 #114231

Perhaps we should clarify, this vignette is for Flanders only, so not a "Belgian" Vignette. As far as I'm aware, Wallonia is still totally free, so no need for a permit if travelling the more eastern routes between Nl and FR.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 12:28 #114229

Richard is quite right. First, your boat must be registered on the Vlaamse Watwerwg site, www.visiuri.be , with identification and size details. Then you can apply for a permit for the time you require, from a day to a year. The charge is calculated per metre length, at a lower rate the longer the duration of the permit and it is much cheaper to do it online!
To save reaching for your sliderule, members Tom & Liza have provided us with a simple calculator to esitimate the charge, in the Belgian Waterways section of the Library. This only calculates the online cost. There is a guidance paper in prparation for for navigating the Visuris website, which should be published in a couple of days.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 11:46 #114227

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Thanks Richard,

The application page does actually calculate the fee for you once you have opened an account and entered your ship details. It also states that in straightforward terms that the cost is Euros 14.73 per metre length for the year.

I have actually done the long hand calculation as well just to prove that my eyes were not deceiving me and that my calculator has not thrown a wobbly!

For my 30m ship I think I paid about 130 last year, discounted from 180. This coming year it seems that it will be Euros 440.61 !!!!!

By any reckoning that is one hell of an increase.

Now I am the first to agree that the lower figure has indeed been very low, almost nominal, for a long time. As I recall it started at about 80 euros p.a. when the system first came in about 20 years ago. I always felt that that was reflected by the relatively poor facilities, the relatively poor service to pleasure craft etc. that was par for the course, certainly on many of the larger waterways, in Belgium. There have been some improvements such as an increased number of landing stations etc. I wonder whether we will see any more such as water taps?

The shorter term rates also seem high, at about 250 for a month and 350 for a quarter (for 30m). Belgium has experienced a big growth in interest in pleasure boating in the last 20 years but I can see that stalling, especially for short term visitors.

Overall it is obviously a step towards reality, albeit a painful one (says he reaching for the credit card), but I did hear it mentioned that there may be some outcry from users and wonder if anybody has any feed back on this? I think I will keep the card holstered for a day or so.

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p.s. Remember that this is for Flanders only! Wallonia remains free I believe.

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Flanders Vignette 06 Mar 2020 10:18 #114225

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We think we have managed to buy a vignette for 2020. It is not easy so for anybody who is puzzled this is what we did. Google visuris be, you then open an account, sign in, search for 'vignette' in the search box top right hand corner, Choose 'watewegenvergunning en' from a list of pdf's, this takes you to the new price list and not the old list. Working out the bill IS rocket science, it is worked out on a daily basis, you will need a calculator, a sheet of A4, several pencils, a coffee and patience. It is cheaper online so best done that way and it needs to be done by the end of March. If any of this is wrong info. then we are happy to be corrected.
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