BE Flanders Rubbish App

Colin Stone wrote:
I got a reply from the bin app provider - they said it was to reduce on street rubbish dumping!!  Difficult in a fenced in lock by the general public/fly tippers!
No explanation why it can't be done via website instead of app. 
It is still barking mad.

Seems to me it is all about charging for services, with the system outsourced and an additional stage in the profit chain.

Charges for electricity (ca. 28 cents per unit) and water (ca. 3.50 per tonne) seem reasonable if the figures are up to date but 2.5 euros for a 60 litre rubbish sack seems a bit heavy. We are used to the normal Belgian system where you buy sacks in the local shop, fill them and leave them out on the due date, but we were talking there about cents per sack. Like I said there is a lot to be said for a trash compactor. Ours compacts about two to three weeks of non-recyclable rubbish into a cube that fits in one 60 litre sack with space to spare.

The other aspect I suppose is traceability. The wrong sort of rubbish might be much more easily traced to the owner!

I certainly can’t believe that locked rubbish containers are going to help keep the streets clean. That is the bit that is barking!

Balliol.

Thanks Pete and Balliol. 

Yes, vignette easy online. I'm surprised when I bought at Menin last year that the lock keeper didn't tell me it was online. Don't even recall a publicity poster about in the sluis hut.

I got a reply from the bin app provider - they said it was to reduce on street rubbish dumping!!  Difficult in a fenced in lock by the general public/fly tippers!
No explanation why it can't be done via website instead of app. 
It is still barking mad.

Balliol, see you at OVA. Beernem Keer Sluis tomorrow, Stalhille Sun. Mercator Mon. 

Thanks for reminding me to pay the Vignette Colin! Would have forgotten otherwise. Painless process online (apart from the money!)

Plenty of bins at OVA. What you need is a trash compactor. Saves lots of rubbish sacks.

 See you at OVA. We sail tomorrow (leisurely trip!).

Balliol.

The Flanders vignette has been online for a few years now. As our website says, under Knowledgebase / Cruising / Belgium ...

Flemish permits  are sold at some locks and offices but are  much cheaper online    HERE .   Details of the application are  HERE .  It imvolves creating an account, then registering your boat(s) and finally seeing the cost and paying.  You can estimate the cost (2020) using  this calculator  produced by a DBA member.

so at least finding the Visuris website should have been easy.

An app to open a rubbish bin is novelty!  kbeditor@barges.org would love to hear more, to add to the Knowledgebase. 

I am absolutely gobsmacked and I really didn't expect this level of stupidity anywhere??  I can't think of another word for it. 

Just left France and at the Menin lock and keeper told me the vignette was now online. But he only had a phone number and didn't know the website. Not brilliant I thought.  At least I've found the website. 

I then took a bag of rubbish to the bin. And needed a b****y smartphone app to open the bin from connect4shore.nl/en/
There doesn't seem to be a website option to open the bin to ditch gash. 
Barking mad. But I guess they search my phone and monetise the data. 
I'm surprised I don't have to upload my DNA genome so I can be traced if I transgress. 
At least the normal street bins remain unlocked.

I thought NL and BE Flanders was the sensible part of N Europe. 
Clearly not.  What is the world coming to??
Rant over. Well for a few hours anyway until the next useless surprise.